Tennis slice vs topspin

Backhand Lesson: Slice vs Topspin: 7 Key Differences on One Hander

Today I am going to Break Down 7 Key Differences on the One Handed Backhand.

1. The Grip on the slice vs topspin backhand is different

2. The Backhand Unit Turn or racket take back is also an important detail to make sure you do correctly

3. The Swing Path on the slice backhand is different than the topspin backhand

4. The angle on the contact point is different on the topspin backhand than the slice. On the slice you actually want the racket to be slightly open

5. The finish or follow through on slice and topspin backhands are different

6. The Target Goals or Margins on slice vs topspin are different. The ball react completely different on slice vs. topspin so you must aim differently and pick out different targets.

7. Last but on least in strategy. When you hit topspin you are more likely to be on offense in the point and when you slice or chip the ball you might be using it for defensive purposes. I hope you enjoyed this video!

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The Backhand Slice is often used by One-Handed Backhand players because of their ability to disguise the shot. One-Handed and Two-Handed Backhand players use the Slice to:

  • Change up the pace
  • Hit Low or High Shots
  • Hit Defensive Shots
  • Give themselves time to recover

It’s a great alternative to the Backhand Topspin: the ball spins in the opposite direction, catching the opponent off guard and forcing them to adjust their timing.

Grip: Continental Grip

Tennis slice vs topspin


Tennis slice vs topspin

Backhand Slice Guide

Tennis slice vs topspin

Tennis slice vs topspin


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1-6. Moving towards the ball; Rotating shoulders while preparing racquet over the shoulder with the right elbow bent to an “L” shape. Left elbow is holding the throat of the racquet.

7. Racquet is behind the head with shoulders fully turned; “Lock” position, ready to “Roll” (uncoil).

8-9.Stepping forward with knees bent; Wrist cocked back, the face of the racquet almost parallel to the net.

10.  Leaning forward, using body weight to hit the ball; Racquet is swung from a high to low position with the racquet open; Hitting arm is starting to straighten out.

11. Left arm is released just before contact and raised back: Hitting arm is straight at contact; Weight is forward while back foot is off the ground; Head is still and eyes are watching the ball through contact.

12. Follow through is straight and left arm extends back to keep the body balanced; keep the body as sideways as possible to maintain balance.

How to: Forehand Slice

The Forehand Tennis Slice is great to use when:

  • Your opponent hits a very low shot
  • When you’re out of position and unable to set up for a Topspin Forehand. (Since the Slice is relatively slow compared to the Topspin, you have time to recover, if out of position)
  • You want to disguise your shot when hitting a lob (high shot) over your head or a drop shot near the net.

Grip: Continental

Forehand Slice Guide

Tennis slice vs topspin

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1-4. Racquet preparation is initiated while moving towards the ball; Racquet is open faced and above the ball in order to swing from high to low; Shoulders rotate to create the “Lock” position; Left arm is parallel to the ground.

5.   This Slice footwork movement is similar to the Running Forehand; This shot is executed with an Open Stance; In this case, the last step before the shot is taken by the right foot.

6.   Uncoiling begins; As the player makes contact with the ball, the left leg crosses in front of the right leg; Body is opens up to the net.

7.   Racquet follows through the ball; Head is still to keep balance.

8.   Once the shot is hit, the right leg comes around in order to recover for the next shot.

Tennis slice vs topspin

One of the major changes of the game has been the different types of shots used. Thirty years ago slice or backspin was the primary shot in tennis (besides hitting the ball flat). A slice ground stroke causes the ball to rotate backwards towards the person who hit the ball. The ball often stays low to the ground after it bounces. Slice shots can be good for making an opponent really stretch for a ball, but it is difficult to hit them with much pace.

Modern tennis is dominated by the use of topspin shots. A ball with topspin rotates forward toward the opponent as it travels through the air. This allow for players to hit with much more pace while still keeping the ball in. Because of the rotation of the ball, players can also hit the ball over the net higher and expect it to still go in.

An experienced tennis player would integrate both types of shots into play using each shot strategically throughout points.

But, if I had to choose just one shot to use, I would pick topspin. I have been raised in the topspin era and love to see the ball sail three feet over the net and drop in at the baseline.

Check out these videos of slice and topspin:

  • Slice backhand
  • Slice forehand
  • Topspin forehand
  • Topspin backhand

I get slides land closer to the net and flats seem to land further back, but wouldn't a lob be more useful than a flat if you want to hit it deep?

Are topspin shots the most powerful? If so what makes the other 2 worth it? I'm wondering if maybe each type of characters strong shot is different depending on their style but I'm not sure.

Any help would be appreciated.


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Posted byu/[deleted]4 years ago

Tennis slice vs topspin

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I've recently started drilling on the slice backhand to complemet the topspin backhand I have been practicing. I am curious how better players choose to utilize a slice vs. topspin/flat backhand? It seems that the slice is easier to execute on high balls, but also very low balls. Do you use the slice backhand for most returns and reserve the topspin for winners? Or is the topspin backhand the preferred shot due to it's pace, with the slice reserved for difficult situations. I would say for myself, the difference between a poorly executed slice and a poorly executed toppin backhand are that a poorly executed slice goes high (uniintentional lob) but stays in where a poorly executed topspin either hits the net or goes long.

The slice seems more reliable but also has less pace.

Basically, if I havethe time to set up and hit a topspin back hand I will. Other wise I slice it. Not that slicing is bad. In fact it is very reliable and easier to place than a topspin BH.

Tennis slice vs topspin

Topspin or flat drive most of your backhands and slice some for a change of pace and low balls. I definitely don't agree with slicing most backhands and reserving drives for a select few winners.

Tennis slice vs topspin

Well, my slice is a lot better than my topspin backhand, so I use it quite often. If I have plenty of time to set up I'll use my topspin backhand though. For approach shots I always use the slice.

Tennis slice vs topspin

I like to use the slice backhand cross court from the deuce side in doubles to chip and charge against a 2nd serve. I use the topspin backhand in singles. Both are very useful depending on the situation. For me the slice is used mainly to set up net play.

Tennis slice vs topspin

Well, my slice is a lot better than my topspin backhand, so I use it quite often. If I have plenty of time to set up I'll use my topspin backhand though. For approach shots I always use the slice.

Yeah, I'm on the same boat as him. I didn't really have a topspin backhand until a month an half ago so I sliced everything back on my backhand side. I use a 1hbh now (Djokovicfan4life kinda convinced me that this was the better backhand in my other thread), and I only use it when I have time to set up. I would say if the ball is waist height and you have time to set up then go for a topspin drive, otherwise slice. That's just my opinion and how I play though, so that may not suit you

I've recently started drilling on the slice backhand to complemet the topspin backhand I have been practicing. I am curious how better players choose to utilize a slice vs. topspin/flat backhand? It seems that the slice is easier to execute on high balls, but also very low balls. Do you use the slice backhand for most returns and reserve the topspin for winners? Or is the topspin backhand the preferred shot due to it's pace, with the slice reserved for difficult situations. I would say for myself, the difference between a poorly executed slice and a poorly executed toppin backhand are that a poorly executed slice goes high (uniintentional lob) but stays in where a poorly executed topspin either hits the net or goes long.

The slice seems more reliable but also has less pace.

the decision depends on multple factors: who is on the other side of the net, what type of shot they just hit and where it lands relative to where they are on the bounce, where i am relative to their balls placement, etc. etc. etc. that said, it can be difficult to drive a ball that is too low or too high so slice might be preferable in those cases. in addition, if pulled out wide or late an aggressive topspin can be difficult to make.

on net approaches, slices can be more effective to solicit a higher ball from your opponent to volley, but not always. sometimes driving the ball is a better choice. its all pretty dynamic.

Tennis slice vs topspin

I tend to use my topspin backhand when my feet and the ball are in a good position, otherwise I'll use the slice. I'm more comfortable returning serves with the slice. For right handed opponents that are not comfortable at the net, I'll use the short angled cross court slice to their backhand to make them think about coming in or being stranded in No Man's land if they choose not to come in. Also, if I find that an opponent like's to use my pace against me, then he'll be getting a heavy dose of deep floating slices.

Tennis slice vs topspin

I'm probably the opposite of most people in this thread. My topspin 1hander is loads better than my slice. I probably hit about 90% topspin and the rest slice. I just time it much better when I'm swinging up and out on it.

One of my patterns against players that don't like to slice/don't have a good slice backhand:

deep slice cross court backhand. Have them hit up on the ball and not as aggressive as normal. From this ball I will then hit topspin backhand with some angle or down the line.

Tennis slice vs topspin

I tend to slice more than backhand. I only do a topspin 1BH went I have enough time and not constrained. Merely because of a technique thing, I would prefer to do more topspin backhands.

what is BH? backhand...and when u say 1BH and so on about grips is the size?
(this part is off topic but i really want to know) can u give me some tips and videos how to play..right now i can only do a topspin and barely a 2 handed forehand and i can use backhand

Tennis slice vs topspin

Depends what play I am trying to pull off, a short slice that lands on the service line is killer to most people on faster courts if they havnt got good footwork.

Tennis slice vs topspin

what is BH? backhand...and when u say 1BH and so on about grips is the size?
(this part is off topic but i really want to know) can u give me some tips and videos how to play..right now i can only do a topspin and barely a 2 handed forehand and i can use backhand

I would suggest just crusing around the tips & instruction forum and even the internet in general. Google "Fuzzy Yellow Tennis Balls." A top notch site for nothing (thanks FYB!).

Tennis slice vs topspin

For me it all depends on the moment, where am I at and what I want to do with the ball. If going against on back hand exchanges - I tend to go for topspin and at time going for a flat bh shot for winner. If I'm playing to change the pace of the match or change the direction of the ball - I would use slice. I also have use both topspin and slice to mix up my shot - pin my opponent to the back hand side and then going for a hard slice dtl to the backhand for winner.

Returning serves: I never use the same type of shot to return a serve. I move my shots around - because I like to be on the offensive whenever I can from the get go.

Tennis slice vs topspin

One piece of advice. WHatever you decide to use at that moment - stick with it. Do what comes naturally, breath and relax. Getting tense up will only slow your reaction.

Don't over analyst which weapon to use. It will screw up your game - makes you hesitate to go for the shot. Resulting in a weaker shot or error.

Tennis slice vs topspin

I've recently started drilling on the slice backhand to complemet the topspin backhand I have been practicing. I am curious how better players choose to utilize a slice vs. topspin/flat backhand? It seems that the slice is easier to execute on high balls, but also very low balls. Do you use the slice backhand for most returns and reserve the topspin for winners? Or is the topspin backhand the preferred shot due to it's pace, with the slice reserved for difficult situations. I would say for myself, the difference between a poorly executed slice and a poorly executed toppin backhand are that a poorly executed slice goes high (uniintentional lob) but stays in where a poorly executed topspin either hits the net or goes long.

The slice seems more reliable but also has less pace.

Here are some tips you can use. Some of this is a repaet of what others above have provided: 1. Balls out of the strike zone for your grip: Your ball recognition skills should be able to pickup whether or not YOU can handle the ball with topspin. I am saying "you" because your skill, talent, level, amount of practice is involved. For instance, a ball that is in your grips strike zone but is on the fringe may or may not be a good ball for you to hit based on how consistent you are with that ball. This can be a lower ball, a higher ball, or both!!! Slicing the ball back is usually a safe bet to stay in the point (provided you know how to slice and have developed it). 2. Balls you are out of position on: If you are having a tough time getting into position, you might want to slice the ball back so you can improve your recovery position and close the court more. In other words, a slice may buy you time to recover and seal off the court, so you can hit more offensively. 3. Balls that are just plain 'ol difficult: Some players will hit balls to you that are heavy, with a lot of pace and spin, and although they are in your strike zone, your consistency falls apart due to what you are trying to handle. You might want to slice those back. 4. Balls you want to change pace on or mix up spins: If you are in a matchup that you dont want, you might want to slice the ball to move it a bit, so that you can work the point to the matchup you want. Or you may just want to mix things up. 5. Balls suited for underspin vs. topspin: Such as approach shots which also depends on what you are recieving, how quickly you got in, etc...

Your conditioning, ability to know what is coming to you immediately and your movement play a big role in how many times you have to slice defensively.

Tennis slice vs topspin

I'm probably the opposite of most people in this thread. My topspin 1hander is loads better than my slice. I probably hit about 90% topspin and the rest slice. I just time it much better when I'm swinging up and out on it.

it surprises me that you think this, i do 90% topspin and only really resort to slicing on low balls. the 1bh topspin if executed properly is such a killer i feel theres no need to use the slice unless to recover. even with approach shots its not a banker whereas the topspin is.

ps any advice on wh my slices all go cross court?

Tennis slice vs topspin

it surprises me that you think this, i do 90% topspin and only really resort to slicing on low balls. the 1bh topspin if executed properly is such a killer i feel theres no need to use the slice unless to recover. even with approach shots its not a banker whereas the topspin is.

ps any advice on wh my slices all go cross court?

Because you hit it crosscourt? Here's your sign...

Tennis slice vs topspin

BB, when you approach off the backhand side, do you usually slice approach or topspin it? My slice approach on a short/non-aggressive ball isn't very good, but I have no trouble flattening it out dtl/cc and coming in. Trouble is, I often get my power redirected back at me, but if I slice it, I give my opponents too much time to set up a pass. Which one is the better choice?

Tennis slice vs topspin

On occasion, I can hit a more powerful backhand than forehand. The ball just barely clears the net with pace and spin. Otherwise I have a decent backhand.

My slices are reserved for the sake of variety to catch my opponent (deep behind the baseline) off-guard, or to get balls that I can barely reach.

Tennis slice vs topspin

Topspin or Slice BH As many have said, aside from when approaching, needing to speed up the recovery or wanting to mix the point up a bit, a slice is often used as a safety valve in tough situations, or when the ball is out of a player’s preferred strike zone. In “important” competitive situations, I would indeed advise using whatever is required to stay in the point, which may be a slice. However, unless you have really mastered all aspects of your game, in less critical matches I would say work on using your topspin BH in most all of those “emergency” circumstances, so you can expand its range of use. A lot of people think they don’t have enough time to prepare or position for a topspin BH, and so they slice. True, a slice BH can be prepared for very quickly and hit from less than optimal positions, but in reality I have found many students merely get spooked by a “dangerous” ball, which leads them to THINK they don’t have time to prepare for a topspin BH, when in fact they actually DO have time. As a result of this fear, they tend to only partially prepare . . . on fast balls they may take the racquet back only half way, and on wide balls they may take the racquet back behind the ball and not behind the body. If you work on making sure your backswing is correct, complete and BEFORE the bounce, you might be amazed at how much time you really do have and how effective your topspin BH can become in many of those tough situations where you once thought you had to slice. Having said all of that, I do love my slice.

MG

Tennis slice vs topspin

i use the flat and top spin 80% of the time.