For morning cold start, the start up is more responsive and idling slightly better compared to Shell when new. Show Low speed driving and power is about the same as Shell. Revving to higher speed and about 100KM, the engine is more stable & lively. Overall slight improvement from Shell. What I like Smooth, better fuel consumption, lively acceleration & car feel much lighter. High performance 100% Synthetic lubricant Motul 8100 X-Cess 5W40 is specifically designed for tuned engines with mild cam profiles (Lift, duration, ramp) and/or moderate valve spring pressure (<180psi) requiring more than 1100ppm of Zinc. NOTE: Do not use Zinc additives. More than approximately 1200ppm of Zinc is ineffective, negatively impacting other wear protection additives and is considered Zinc saturation or Zinc dosing. If cam wear occurs, investigate mechanical or oil flow issues. Please consult Motul. I was told that the Motul 8100 X-cess Gen2 is good "street" oil from quality base stock and with good additives to protect from daily driving abuse. I have also been told that Mobile 1 5w30 synthetic is a great oil for the street. I drive like a granny most of the time due to gas prices, haha. However every other drive I�ll do some redline pulls. Thanks for the additional help! 06-24-2022, 08:19 PM 2Captain Drives: 2019 BMW M4 Competition Join Date: May 2022 Location: 94063 It�s for an F82 M4 with completion package 06-24-2022, 08:49 PM 3Enlisted Member Drives: BMW F80 M3 Join Date: May 2021 Location: NYC Motul > Mobile 06-24-2022, 09:33 PM 4Second Lieutenant Drives: F80M3 Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: LV, PA Could talk about fluids forever! But I've made the switch from Liqui Moly to xcess Gen 2 and haven't looked back. More consistent temps at least for my climate. Would definitely recommend. I'm running 5W 40 06-24-2022, 10:41 PM 5Captain Drives: 2019 BMW M4 Competition Join Date: May 2022 Location: 94063 Quote: Originally Posted by PooLeArMor Motul > Mobile How so? Car runs smoother? Faster? Safer? Respectfully, is there evidence to back this up? 06-24-2022, 10:42 PM 6Captain Drives: 2019 BMW M4 Competition Join Date: May 2022 Location: 94063 Quote: Originally Posted by McIntoshMotorSports Could talk about fluids forever! But I've made the switch from Liqui Moly to xcess Gen 2 and haven't looked back. More consistent temps at least for my climate. Would definitely recommend. I'm running 5W 40 Glad to hear it�s working for you. I�m in Northern California if that helps any with the advice. 06-24-2022, 11:05 PM 7Captain Drives: 2015 f80 M3 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: East Bay Area, CA 06-24-2022, 11:14 PM 8Captain Drives: 2019 BMW M4 Competition Join Date: May 2022 Location: 94063 Yea I saw that � my head was spinning, haha 06-25-2022, 01:16 AM 9Enlisted Member Drives: M4 Competition Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: San Marino motul specific ll-12 ow-30 very quite run 06-25-2022, 01:27 AM 10Brigadier General Drives: '17 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California __________________ 2017 F80 M3 ZCP / AA GESI DPs / Akrapovic Evo / BBS FI-R 19" / Bend Calibration ECUTEK Flex Fuel | Bilstein B16 DDC + CS EDC / BMC Filters / BMS OCC / CSF HE / ESS CP / Nitto NT555R2 / PD Crank Hub / SPL Suspension / Uniden R7 / Wagner Top Mount IC 2021 Mini GP3 / BMC Filters / BM3 / Cary Jordan E30 / Wagner IC / Remus Race 06-25-2022, 03:02 AM 11Captain Drives: 2019 BMW M4 Competition Join Date: May 2022 Location: 94063 Haha..I�d like to get an overall consensus of opinion here. And some feedback. 06-25-2022, 03:42 AM 12Private Drives: F80 M3 6MT Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Bay Area, CA Went Motul X-CESS 5W-40, it's been great! 06-26-2022, 12:24 AM 13First Lieutenant Drives: 2017 M3 30 Jahre Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: California Quote: Originally Posted by jonf49 Haha..I’d like to get an overall consensus of opinion here. And some feedback. Quote: Originally Posted by jonf49 Haha..I'd like to get an overall consensus of opinion here. And some feedback. It's in the thread. You don't need consensus. Read the posts from Edycol 06-26-2022, 01:25 AM 14Brigadier General Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Seattle A few consistent redline pulls isn’t gonna cause your engine much heartache - any LL01 will be great. I personally use Motul Xcess Gen2 5W-40, my usage is granny on the street and at my rate probably 4-6 track days a year. __________________ Current: F80 Prior: F82, F32 06-26-2022, 08:39 AM 15Brigadier General Drives: 2023 M3 Comp xDrive Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Chester County, PA If X-Cess makes my car look like that I'm going to get it NOW! __________________ '18 F80 Base 6MT | '19 F82 Exec DCT | '18 F82 Comp Exec DCT | '23 G80cx 07-08-2022, 01:42 PM 16Lieutenant Drives: 2018 M4 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: NY iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00] Quote: Originally Posted by McIntoshMotorSports Could talk about fluids forever! But I've made the switch from Liqui Moly to xcess Gen 2 and haven't looked back. More consistent temps at least for my climate. Would definitely recommend. I'm running 5W 40 I'm considering the same switch from Liqui Moly over to Motul 8100 X Gen2. Did you use an engine flush when you did the oil change switching brands? __________________ ?18 M4 Comp 07-08-2022, 06:25 PM 17Captain Drives: 2019 BMW M4 Competition Join Date: May 2022 Location: 94063 Quote: Originally Posted by HotRodM4 I'm considering the same switch from Liqui Moly over to Motul 8100 X Gen2. Did you use an engine flush when you did the oil change switching brands? Also interested in knowing whether it�s necessary to do any kind of oil flush before using another brand of oil? 07-08-2022, 08:25 PM 18Brigadier General Drives: '17 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California Quote: Originally Posted by jonf49 Quote: Originally Posted by HotRodM4 I'm considering the same switch from Liqui Moly over to Motul 8100 X Gen2. Did you use an engine flush when you did the oil change switching brands? Also interested in knowing whether it’s necessary to do any kind of oil flush before using another brand of oil? Not needed. Pick one oil and stick with it to get the best results. __________________ 2017 F80 M3 ZCP / AA GESI DPs / Akrapovic Evo / BBS FI-R 19" / Bend Calibration ECUTEK Flex Fuel | Bilstein B16 DDC + CS EDC / BMC Filters / BMS OCC / CSF HE / ESS CP / Nitto NT555R2 / PD Crank Hub / SPL Suspension / Uniden R7 / Wagner Top Mount IC 2021 Mini GP3 / BMC Filters / BM3 / Cary Jordan E30 / Wagner IC / Remus Race 07-10-2022, 09:16 AM 19Lieutenant Drives: E90,F30, F80 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Space Coast Florida My 2c for Motul…Just did the oil pan gasket on my wife's 335i (N55). I've used Motul 8100 X-Cess Gen 2 5W/40 for the last 25,000 on this engine with great results. I use the same oil in my F80 M3 with zero issues. Attached Images
08-28-2022, 09:11 PM 20Colonel Drives: G87 M2; E92M3 MT&DCT; M3 euro Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: nyc One thing I noticed about Motul X-cess Gen2 5W40 compared to all the other 5W40s, is that it enables the engine to hold higher gears (=higher engine load) much longer going uphill. That to me is a testament to the high shear stability of this oil. Cold start gets a little rough after 3000 miles, so that's my OCI. __________________ Pass me if you can. 08-29-2022, 04:21 PM 21Lieutenant Drives: 2018 M4 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: NY iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00] I made the switch from Liqui Moly to Motul Gen2. It's been 1,600 miles so far and it feels better. Might be placebo. Is Motul 8100 oil good?Certainly worth the price and confidently recommend it. It convinced me to switch to Motul in the trans and diff too. 6 stars. Run smooth and engine quiet. Is Motul better than Mobil?imo, the highest end motuls are better. they are made from better base stocks and incorporate a better additive package. plus when an oil is ester based it is better than any normal synthetic oil. we've had lots of good reviews of the h100. What is the difference between Motul X cess and X clean?X-cess is an anti wear oil for powerful engines, X-clean oil is primarily for cars with three way cats and diesel particulate filters, whatever that means. Is Liqui Moly better than Motul?Most people who have tried both regard Liquimoly to be better - that is comparing Motul 7100 synthetic oil with Liquimoly Street Race synthetic. For racing, Motul 300V is a better oil, but the gains are minuscule , less than 1% and more in the 0.3–0.5% range. |