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Từ ngữ và mẫu câu trong bàiさくら ところでアンナさん。 電話番号は何番ですか。 Mà chị Anna này. Số điện thoại của chị là bao nhiêu? Sakura TOKORODE ANNA-SAN. DENWABANGÔ WA NANBAN DESU KA. Mà chị Anna này. Số điện thoại của chị là bao nhiêu? アンナ ええと。０８０－１２３４－・・・。 Xem nào. 080 – 1234 – ... Anna ÊTO. REI HACHI REI - ICHI NI SAN YON - ... Xem nào. 080 – 1234 – ... さくら ありがとう。 じゃ、今度、電話をしますね。 Cảm ơn chị. Thế thì, lần sau tôi sẽ điện thoại cho chị nhé. Sakura ARIGATÔ. JA, KONDO, DENWA O SHIMASU NE. Cảm ơn chị. Thế thì, lần sau tôi sẽ điện thoại cho chị nhé. Cách nói phủ định (Bài 4)Tôi xin lấy ví dụ câu “Tôi là người Nhật”. “Tôi” là WATASHI, và “người Nhật” là NIHON-JIN. Vì vậy, “Tôi là người Nhật” sẽ nói là WATASHI WA NIHON-JIN DESU. Để biến một câu kết thúc bằng DESU thành câu phủ định, thì đổi DESU thành DEWA ARIMASEN. Vì vậy, để nói “Tôi không phải là người Nhật” thì nói là WATASHI WA NIHON-JIN DEWA ARIMASEN.  私がまちがっていたら、私を修正してください、but regarding the particles "niwa" and "dewa" Are they used, in one way, while explaining about traditions, surroundings, etc. in a close vicinity (i.e. town) ("niwa") or in another area (i.e. country) ("dewa") The thought popped up in my mind, partially because of some of your lessons. Until your reply ありがとうございます。 あなたはとてもいいですよ Dan Fernold mmmason8967 Expert on Something Posts: 758 Joined: January 7th, 2012 12:24 pm by mmmason8967 » August 1st, 2013 11:44 pm Strictly speaking, I don't think "niwa" and "dewa" are particles. They are "ni" and "de" followed by "wa", which is the topic-marking particle. So the difference between "niwa" and "dewa" is the same as the difference between "ni" and "de". I think the main difference between ni and de when they're used with a location is that ni marks where something is and de marks where something happens. Unlikely example follows:- にわには犬がいます。 In the garden there is a dog. にわでは犬が猫を食べています。 In the garden there's a dog eating a cat. Until your reply ありがとうございます。 On to the nit-picking! You can't use ありがとうございます to mean "thanks in advance". The literal meaning of ありがとう is something very roughly like "you did a great job". It just doesn't work until after the great job has been done. On the plus side, this is a good place to try out よろしく. It's a difficult word to pin down (i.e. I don't really understand it) but some of its meanings include "I'm relying on you", "I trust in your support" and even "thanks in advance". マイケル danfernold7261 Expert on Something Posts: 110 Joined: June 10th, 2013 8:46 pm by danfernold7261 » August 2nd, 2013 7:15 am Ok, so which one you use, depends on the rest of the sentence? (i.e. if something happens, it´s "dewa", and if somthing exists in a place (in general), it´s niwa.) Until your reply. Keep up the good work:) yoroshiku. (correct?) Dan Fernold community.japanese Expert on Something Posts: 2704 Joined: November 16th, 2012 8:54 am by community.japanese » August 3rd, 2013 6:07 am Dan-san, マイケルsan, those are splendid examples, マイケルsan! Thank you! Basic idear are... ni (wa): existance, place to go/come de (wa): place of actions => used with verbs of "action". Hope this helps Natsuko(奈津子), Team JapanesePod101.com danfernold7261 Expert on Something Posts: 110 Joined: June 10th, 2013 8:46 pm by danfernold7261 » August 3rd, 2013 10:27 am Let's see. Let me try, here's two examples. 日本にはひとがたくさんいます 日本では人がらめんやおすしをたべています Did I get it right? Dan Fernold japanese.innovative Been Around a Bit Posts: 15 Joined: August 2nd, 2013 1:04 am by japanese.innovative » August 5th, 2013 3:21 am Dan san, You almost got it right! １：日本には人がたくさんいます。 is correct, but if you want to sound more natural, you can say 日本にはたくさんの人がいます。 ２：日本では人がらめんやおすしをたべています。makes sense! But since not all Japanese people eat them, you might want to say 日本ではたくさんの人がラーメンやおすしをたべています。 instead! |
