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I've been running 2-256mb sticks of PC2700 Kingmax for several months and had no problems at all. They currently reside in a Gigabyte GA7-DXR+ and happily cohabitate with my XP1700+. I've run memtest86 and prime95 for 24hr stretches and seen no errors from memory. Hope this helps.
As far as things are concerned,memory modules of different makes do not really have any significant differences in terms of quality and performance. That is,given the same specifications and RAM types.<BR><BR>What really sets them apart is how established or how reputable the manufacturer is.Personally,I would opt for Apacer PC2700/PC2100 over the numerous choices available on the market as it happens also to be the manufacturer for Sony's Memory Stick.Besides,it offers a lifetime manufacturer warranty to most models of its memory modules.<BR><BR>The prices for DDR RAM with most of the computer retailers here (Malaysia) are pretty close to one another,if not the same.Prices aside,Apacer would definitely be of a more preferable choice,not that I am biased against Kingmax or anything.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cryptorstooge:<BR> As far as things are concerned,memory modules of different makes do not really have any significant differences in terms of quality and performance. That is,given the same specifications and RAM types.<BR><BR>What really sets them apart is how established or how reputable the manufacturer is.Personally,I would opt for Apacer PC2700/PC2100 over the numerous choices available on the market as it happens also to be the manufacturer for Sony's Memory Stick.Besides,it offers a lifetime manufacturer warranty to most models of its memory modules.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>And how do you think a manufacturer gets to be reputable? By making good ram, because quality <B>does</B> matter!!<BR><BR>L. JhhnnArs Legatus Legionis
I've used Kingmax Sdram in a few systems, never had a problem. Haven't tried their DDR. My only gripe was that some vendors sold pc133 cas3 sticks as cas2. I mean, yeh, it would run cas2, but not using spd to detect the info on the memory eeprom. Not Kingmax's fault, though.<BR><BR>ECC isn't necessary at all except on mission critical servers, and those are definitely not overclocked. It's slightly slower in the first place, a definite handicap in overclocking scenarios.....
Kingmax = Micron chips + better packaging (Tiny BGA) + better PCB<BR><BR>High quality stuff.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blue Apple:<BR> Kingmax = Micron chips + better packaging (Tiny BGA) + better PCB<BR><BR>High quality stuff.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Yeah, but I have heard that Micron chips, while high quality, can have trouble with 3rd-party packaging.
If you want the best DDR SDRAM, without too much consideration for cost, I'd go with Corsair XMS memory.<BR><BR>I've had a couple of sticks of Kingmax "PC150" SDRAM and could not get it to run at maxed timings at 140 MHz. If I dropped CAS latency down, it ran Ok. Most brands of memory are rated at their speeds using less than optimal timings. The Kingmax modules I've seen in reviews lately usually can't run the fastest memory timings at their rated speeds, and different memory timings can have an effect of up to about 4-5% in benchmarking. It's a big reason I have a hard-on for the Corsair modules that I WILL be using in my next system. Their XMS 3000 and 3200 modules are both tested at the fastest timings at 166 MHz (DDR 333), and are tested to run at 185 MHz and 200 MHz respecitvely, albeit at CAS 2.5. Those modules have pretty much outperformed all other brands of DDR memory in ALMOST every review I've seen (Samsung beat them once, and they were extensively playing with voltage and "burning" the memory in).<BR><BR>My 2 cents.
Where is the best place to buy Corsair memory modules?
<I>the Corsair modules that I WILL be using in my next system. </I><BR><BR>You'd better buy them right now, then. These modules use 3rd generation Samsung chips which are no longer manufactured. The 4th generation Samsung don't seem to clock as as high.<BR><BR><I>different memory timings can have an effect of up to about 4-5% in benchmarking. </I><BR><BR>Not really. In pure memory benchmarks, the difference is around 2-3%, which translates to 1-2% in applications. Not worth it if it costs too much or if it leads to stability problems.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blue Apple:<BR>You'd better buy them right now, then. These modules use 3rd generation Samsung chips which are no longer manufactured. The 4th generation Samsung don't seem to clock as as high.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Which revisions of XMS use the old Samsung? And where do you get the info? The problem is the heatspreader is damn difficult to get off, and most reviewsites just give up, rather than risk destroying the sticks. My XMS2700 runs @ 166mhz cas 2/2/2/1T right now, without problems. But i think it would go much higher, haven't tried. It's rev. 1.1.<BR><BR>L.
<I>And where do you get the info? </I><BR><BR>www.hardware.fr<BR><BR>Basically, current "best and bightest" chips from Samsung are validated at 166MHz only. Next generation chips will be validated at 200MHz too, so the PC2700 memory chips may be the ones that failed at 200 but passed at 166.<BR><BR>So the new Samsung PC2700 won't be as good as the old ones, but the new PC3200 should work well.<BR><BR>Only Samsung DIMMs currently use the new chips.<BR><BR><I>But i think it would go much higher, </I><BR><BR>In benchmarks it ran stable at 215MHz (CAS2.5).<BR><BR>But I always wonder why people would pay for the Corsair brand when official Samsung DIMMs work as well if not better.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>But I always wonder why people would pay for the Corsair brand when official Samsung DIMMs work as well if not better. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>for the same reason people pay for mercedes-benz or bmw over honda.
<I>for the same reason people pay for mercedes-benz or bmw over honda.</I><BR><BR>Except that Samsung DIMMs (the official ones, not no-name with Samsung chips on them) overclock just as well.<BR><BR>Same with official Micron DIMMs and Crucial ones.
Corsair XMS modules are rated at higher speeds and faster timings than Micron/Crucial/Samsung. I think it's more likely a module will work at those faster speeds and timings when it is tested and spec'd to them.
I've yet to see Kingmax RAM work properly with any other type of RAM. Their PC133 RAM wouldn't work with any combination of other RAM, and their DDR stuff looks to be similar.<BR><BR>If you're intending using exclusively Kingmax, then go ahead. Otherwise, look elsewhere.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ZStation:<BR> I've yet to see Kingmax RAM work properly with any other type of RAM. Their PC133 RAM wouldn't work with any combination of other RAM, and their DDR stuff looks to be similar.<BR><BR>If you're intending using exclusively Kingmax, then go ahead. Otherwise, look elsewhere.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Actually, I had a 128MB sick of Kingmax PC150 which played nice with 2-128MB pieces of Crucial RAM in a K7T system I built.
Doublegap: You were lucky, or I've been terribly unlucky - I've seen many machines with Kingmax memory in them, and adding more non-Kingmax memory has led to slight instability, or the inability to POST all the memory. How much RAM do I really need?16GB of RAM should work perfectly for most day-to-day tasks. Basic tasks such as web browsing and word processing, 4GB should suffice. If the task you are doing is more intense, you will need more RAM. 8 GB and up for more advanced activities like photo editing or streaming video. Is 16 GB RAM good?16GB of RAM is the amount of memory we recommend for intermediate users looking for extra speed and smooth functioning. This may be especially beneficial if you tend to have several programs open and running, simultaneously. This is also a good level of RAM for casual gamers and standard business professionals. Is crucial RAM good for gaming laptop?Crucial® Ballistix® Random Access Memory (RAM) is engineered to boost your gaming PC and help you win. Lower latencies, effortless overclocking, aggressive heat spreaders, real-time temperature monitoring, and premium components manufactured to the highest reliability standards all make a difference in your gaming. What RAM do I need?For basic web browsing and document creation, 4GB or 8GB is usually sufficient. For tasks such as photo editing and streaming media, however, 16GB of RAM may be necessary. For gaming or video editing applications, even higher amounts of RAM (e.g., 32GB) may be needed to ensure optimal performance. |
